Locked Nuk - unban request

[GaGaGa 39]

In-Game Name: nuk
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:73508244
Banned by: Batata
Server: Zombie Escape :: NiDE.GG :: Rank|FastDL|SSD
Reason: lazer hack
Proof: He doesn't have any actual proofs of me lazer hacking. I was always crouching and then jumping lasers since darkroad taught me this. So this means he totally hates me and just waited for proper time to ban me. Btw, he talks about retextured lazers which I am using that it's not fair. Show me the f*cking rule you are refering to, please. And finally he talks I dont' care about team!!! Tells that I didn't shoot at lasers! Than give me 1 hour ban or slay.

Edited July 17, 2020 by GaGaGa

[Malala 60]

Just f*ck off already, go use nosteam or play CS:GO

[WAEL[TN] 42]

unban already

[Plex 100]

+ when unban

[sito 112]

when unban?

[AzN 74]

11 hours ago, 　Malala　 said:

Just f*ck off already, go use nosteam or play CS:GO

bro be nice i dont know why you are get getting defensive. 

[Malala 60]

38 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

Using holy on lasers to let people die: ok

 

It was second round, map had already been beaten.

39 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

 Using gravity on lasers to trim / makes no vision of lasers: ok 

 

People have been banned for this

39 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

 Using earth on lasers: ok bannable but hehehehe

 

I can't even remember the last time someone used earth on Nide during the lasers and they weren't punished.

39 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

 Not shooting lasers / zombies / bosses: ok if you elites, don't let other people see ya heheheh

 

As if Gagaga doesn't do the same

40 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

 Using retexture to not get trolled: f*ckING ILLEGAL CALL 911 YOU BREAK THE LAW NO.MORE.WORDS. TAKE YOUR PERMABAN BEFORE FBI CATCH YA

 

He used a laser hack

14 minutes ago, AzN said:

bro be nice i dont know why you are get getting defensive. 

He cheats, he got banned, now he cries like a bitch asking for an unban while denying he cheated

[Malala 60]

45 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

Ok np. But what about first try? Woopsy.

 

There was no yek first try

45 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

2-4 days ago on mako 5_3 when you go to pipes: nope. Woopsy.

 

You said lasers, what lasers are there on the pipes on Mako? Unless you mean when going back up

46 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

Atleast ~1-2 weeks ago. Wester.

 

Who used earth on the lasers?

47 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

Permaban for no shooting? Ok let's ban 15+ more people.

 

No permaban for hacking.

48 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

Batata banned him because of solo on wester + holy vision. Magic of retexture. Show me laserhack.

 

Batata banned him for laser hacking.

48 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

E v i d e n c e, s i r.

You can look at the demos yourself if you truly care about evidence and see him using norecoil for example, but you don't actually give a sh*t about this, you're defending a cheater.

This isn't some court of law or an academic debate, it's a post about a self admitted cheater being banned for cheating, I don't need to waste my time proving anything to some third world russian nigg‎er

[GaGaGa 39]

1 час назад, 　Malala　 сказал:

There was no yek first try

You said lasers, what lasers are there on the pipes on Mako? Unless you mean when going back up

Who used earth on the lasers?

No permaban for hacking.

Batata banned him for laser hacking.

You can look at the demos yourself if you truly care about evidence and see him using norecoil for example, but you don't actually give a sh*t about this, you're defending a cheater.

This isn't some court of law or an academic debate, it's a post about a self admitted cheater being banned for cheating, I don't need to waste my time proving anything to some third world russian nigg‎er

I admitted hacking when I was banned on unloze. But unloze is not nide and after that i wasnt spotted for using any hacks, you can check any demo from this week and see that there is no norecoil etc.

[Klixus 339]

You need to change your profile picture  here@GaGaGa

Edited July 18, 2020 by Klixus

[Malala 60]

25 minutes ago, GaGaGa said:

I admitted hacking when I was banned on unloze. But unloze is not nide and after that i wasnt spotted for using any hacks, you can check any demo from this week and see that there is no norecoil etc.

So for the two weeks (your own words) you used it on unloze, but not once on nide during those two weeks?

[Malala 60]

2 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

so why r u talking then, you are not pretending to be smart. I'm asking admins, it's not my job,

Why are you defending a cheater then.

3 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

If someone says he had norecoil - he must show an evidence

Not when the player is a self admitted cheater.

5 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

I can't physically waste few days to check every single laser map

Yet I'm supposed to be able to?

5 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

I can say like "Malala had norecoil 2 weeks ago many players see + he got banned on "put random server here". Please ban him here

If I had been banned from another server for hacking, had admitted to hacking, then sure.

6 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

If you really want to ban players, who got banned on UNLOZE - it's your way

Only cheaters, having a shared sourcebans for cheaters only is fine by me.

7 minutes ago, FPTyel said:

NiDE banned people from UNLOZE due to these behaviour = unfair
 Who got banned on UNLOZE is getting banned on NiDE = ok

What are you even trying to say

[Batata 618]

I've been quiet for these days about this topic, because you don't even deserve a word from me, because i already know how shit you are, but i'll write down my reasons for the public to see what was my logic and why the ban was a permament ban and answer to some arguments that have been discussed in other topics related to this.

First of all, the reason wasn't "laser hack", neither retexturing lasers (i didn't even know this was possible till some days ago), those were only reasons that came out after. I warned you after knowing that you were hacking on Unloze:

People believe that a person that hacks on Unloze shouldn't be punished in NiDE. I defend the opposite and let me show a real quick example. Do you think that Lance Armstrong (the cyclist) after being caught using doping, was only banned from doing the "Tour de France" but could do the other races? NO. He was completely banned from all the racing competitions. So coming back to this case, why would this be different? I was merciful at the start, i simply warned him that his reputation was fucked and that it was only needed 1 bad action from him to be gone from NiDE too, while i could instantly permabanned and kinda avoid this drama that came after. But alright, let's wait to see if he's really regretting what he did and he starts to play more in team and being less toxic globally. My opinion about this... As a detected hacker, you're job now is to get your reputation back, so your goal should be to be nice to people and apologizing for what you did wrong. Was that what you really did?

First, you admit that you hacked (After you got caught, ok... But at least is something)

But then, were you really regretting all of this and apologizing to people. Your ego didn't allow you to do such an easy thing...

"I used a hack and what lmao". "Do you think i care about this?". I don't even need to comment.

Then i received that report from Malala, showing him dodging lasers in a very suspicious way. The first thing that got me the attention was that he didn't shoot a single bullet from the start during the laser bossfight on the videos, which is already a reason to ban (in this case permaban, related to what i said before <only 1 bad action to permaban>). But then the lasers... Doding lasers while being completely blinded by holy and later by the earth materia. So then it came the argument that he was just using laser retexturing, which allows you to see through the effects of the items. Is this also ok? No. First, you're touching the files of the game and you shouldn't (On Dofus, a game that i play, you get a really long ban for messing up with the core files of the game, for example, to make death animations faster or making the execution of the spells faster, etc).

Second, when you are "inside" the holy, you're not supposed to see what is going through the holy and that's one of the reasons why we don't allow yektimas/holytmas, whatever. So this is just like a wallhack. You're seeing things that you shouldn't be able to see normally. And ofc, if we ban wallhackers (in ZE it isn't really a issue tbh, but i'm talking in CSS overall), then we should also ban people using this, but the question is how can we detect that... ^^' . But well, Mr. gugu gaga admitted using it, so there goes another reason to ban him.

The 3rd part, the laser hack. Now is it really a laser hack? Does the use of retexturing lasers makes it impossible that he still used the hack? Maybe he thought that the laser hack couldn't detect the laser if somebody used a yektima, so in case he was blinded somehow, the laser hack couldn't work. So maybe it's the reason that he used the combo retexture + hack. Can we prove exactly that he was using it?  Not really, unless we have blinded him during the lasers. But having asked this to other fellow admin of NiDE and also from Unloze what they thought about the videos, they were also keen to think he was using laser hacks. And second, also important, because it was where everything started, he was banned on Unloze for using this hack (that also comes with other features). I know people think NiDE is under the hierarchy compared to Unloze and most of the pro players think the server is bad, so honestly, thinking as a hacker, i know that Unloze has beast technical admins (and they have more, in quantity), so me, as trying to test a hack, i'm not gonna try it first at Unloze, i'm gonna try it on NiDE first. So your known sentence "i might have hacked on Unloze, but i didn't hack on NiDE" it's a shitty argument, because knowing that you play a lot of time on NiDE, it seems very unlikely that you used on one server but you didn't use on the server you played the most or at least very often. So watching that suspicious moves in lasers, combined with the information that you used the hack before, doesn't give you credibility at all, but it's not obvious, it could be that you were using it at that moment or not.

And then we got the evidences. And people kept arguing about this. No evidence, bla bla bla. I didn't need evidence to start with. Let me remind you of what i said in the start. The guy was already supposed to be perma banned at that boatescape session long time ago. I only gave him a 2nd chance to redeem himself. And it was only necessary to prove that he did something bad to give you a reason why he would be perma banned. And that evidence was on those 2 videos, where you can clearly see him not shooting during lasers. But, ok, the videos don't prove exactly the use of the laser hack. But then we got two important evidences for this case... 

1) https://www.mediafire.com/file/hhatd6vvln46qwa/auto-20200710-180157-ze_ffvii_temple_ancient_v3_3.dem/file . It happened on NiDE.

I don't understand much about this, but here's the opinion about an admin of NiDe about this:

2) Around 11:00, the FastRun hack, which is a feature of the laser hack.  And also notice that at 7:20 he's throwing nades in front of the players to block their view (and also not shooting the boss). This was on NiDE and before he was banned on Unloze, i think

Let me just say something before that is also important here. I heard some people arguing that we ban aimboters or bhop hackers for a lower duration, but that is simply because we have plugins to detect this or we can easily detect it by spectating the person) Now to detect this kind of hack is hard, so in case we detect players doing this, the ban will be a permanent ban (compared to the 1 month bans that aimboters or bhop hackers receive). 

Conclusions: If you were a nice guy and had the curiosity of testing the hack, but then you were regretting the moment you used it and apologizing to your clan and to the server for using it, i could legit consider reducing the ban to like 1 month.

But you're a liar. You're a trash person. You're a shitty solo player. And your word, at this point, doesn't mean shit. You could have come here, doing your ban request, and admit all the shit that you did and apologized. But instead you brought all your "friends" that believed in you to back you up and convincingly said that you've never hacked on NiDE. Maybe they knew from the start you cheated or maybe they also got blindsided, but that's another question. What i know is that you lied to many people and you didn't even deserved that i wasted this time writing all of this, but at least people know my view about this now. 

Enjoy your hacks against BOTs in de_dust2. Even them are more teamplayers and honest than you, so maybe you can learn something from them.

Ban appeal denied.