Nidthill 5 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) From pro player's point of view it can be hard to understand, I'll try to explain. FFmaps are for players who play CSS ZE from a long time, new players know they can’t win the map and are only here to defend and let “pro” having the satisfaction to win, in 2021 they all know that, that’s why they don’t come anymore. You play ffmaps with only experienced players, but if one day, half of good players don’t come to play, the server became empty, because it’s always the same names of players who play these maps. Some long stages maps are problematic too, lots of players wants to play around 60 min a day, they don't want to play long stage maps that use all their time, they prefer to play several maps. Hard and long maps ofc too, like deadcore, hsc, dreamin, santa, madara etc (for obvious reasons, same as ffmaps). Nemesis isn’t appreciate too, maybe sometime one map nemesis for 15 min is ok, but you guys play nemesis for more than 2 hours in a row it's bad for them. Furthermore, you need to have some skill to appreciate nemesis game, no-experienced player die at start against nemesis or know they will have 0 impact in the game, the majority of players don’t have fun in theses maps. Knife maps are cancer too, where only experienced players with best config, commands etc can win. Unloze server is a good exemple of what the largest community want: they play a lot of shorts maps and always have a lot of players in the day. To resume: -limit ffmaps -limit long stages maps and hard long maps -limit nemesis maps and knife maps And you will find your population back (sorry for my english mistakes, I’m writing this very fast). Thanks for reading. Edited January 14, 2021 by Nidthill 2 1 1 Quote
nigger 31 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) But nide has had the current map restrictions for a while and has had the population fine earlier. And these special saturdays which are essentially what you describe have the lowest population Edited January 14, 2021 by nigger 3 Quote
hzrd 21 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 People see lasers and something goes off in their monkey brain 1 5 Quote
parasours 13 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Imagine nide dying because ff maps, nide is known for its rabid ff fag community lol Edited January 14, 2021 by slapperclapper Quote
Heyfumi 48 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Nidthill said: You play ffmaps with only experienced players Maybe if you actually try to play FF maps you will have map knowledge, experience and became the experienced player yourself, it looks hard when boat escape player said it, but its actually a fun map rather than playing most of casual map. Does not matter if you die at the ending of FF maps, you can always try to beat it on the next session. 5 Quote
Glacius Verglas 25 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 This is what a healthy server looks like: This is what a no-steam padded server looks like: You can buy players but you can't have them learn. Thus, playing "hard" maps becomes a chore. I rest my case. Quote
nigger 31 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 35 minutes ago, Glacius Verglas said: This is what a healthy server looks like: This is what a no-steam padded server looks like: You can buy players but you can't have them learn. Thus, playing "hard" maps becomes a chore. I rest my case. Don't forget the bots to prevent the server going below 20 players Quote
GHOSTIE 1 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 TL;DR : nemesis bad, remove it ff fags bad, remove them Quote
FPTyel 118 Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 You forgot about toxicity and admin ignorance of trolling people. 1 Quote
DeMoN 197 Posted January 15, 2021 Posted January 15, 2021 If we increase the limit for FF maps we are losing our "Final Fantasy" players,if we limit nemesis maps we are losing our "Nemesis" players and so on... Sometimes it is really hard to balance things,unfortunately, even if we want to. The real problem in my eyes is the same maps every day. I really wanted to bring back some of the old maps on the table but players are used to either surf/nemesis/knife map or FF. There are plenty of short maps that don't include lasers or nemesis , which players are just not familliar with... We will figure out something in the future so you all can be pleased to play , thanks for your spent time writing this. P.S. Bring back the basic zombie escape 3 Quote
AzN 74 Posted January 16, 2021 Posted January 16, 2021 if you are short on staff hire taller people Quote
Daddy le toxic 146 Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) This community became garbage since batata left the team tbh his events were good and creative and actually made me exited for the weekend to play them . Now the events are trash with a bunch of trash maps and no good leaders bunch of monkeys running around with 0 clue what to do with time people will start leaving this donut quality server Edited January 21, 2021 by Daddy le toxic 1 7 Quote
Daddy le toxic 146 Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 And to all the sweaty ff fags god you are the lowest of the low the way you tryhard in a map you played 1000 time and still find the enjoyment playing it is something beyond my understanding you must be the most boring people in real life and the way you actually get triggred over mistakes done by some new players is actually sad and pathetic go get a life you losers god i detest you all fking playing the maps over and over and over and over without getting bored f*ck you all 1 9 Quote
CS:S ZE Lead Server Admin Life is a Bitch 355 Posted January 21, 2021 CS:S ZE Lead Server Admin Posted January 21, 2021 Interesting topic and debate but we can bring on many explanations : This will be an eternal debate about tastes and cooldown on maps : FF / Nemesis / etc. like Demon explained it well Others reasons were not mentioned : we had lot of players due to lockdown in many countries. Which explains why the population on CSS ZE servers rise up last few months Then most of the people went back to their work / studies even if there is some lockdown still in some countries The game is old but still the community is very interesting and active Limiting maps because they are long, with laser, with nemesis or whatever would limit also the population on the server. People vote for what they want (...or for what some mic user tell them to vote ) For the events @Daddy le toxic you can check this thread and feel free to make some suggestion : Quote
nigger 31 Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 6:18 PM, Life is a Bitch said: Others reasons were not mentioned : we had lot of players due to lockdown in many countries. Which explains why the population on CSS ZE servers rise up last few months That can only explain so much, many countries are still in lockdowns right now, when your population is varying massively differently on different days it's not an issue of lockdowns at that point. Quote
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